Watching the new Life On Mars? video I noticed the song was running a little slow. It runs about 11 seconds longer when you take into account the silent ending, earlier fade etc. So the music in the video version runs around 3:50. When speed corrected to sync with the original it runs at around 3:39.
The official tracklisting has it lasting 3:37 so my assumption is that the audio from the video will be different to the (hopefully correct) audio on the cd.
Technically this would make it a different version in the IdbD in the same way that the slower Ryko Right is listed there.
Anyway, let's see what the Legacy cd throws up.
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b0r0
Posted: 5th Nov 2016, 5:05 am
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Not sure if this is the same video you talking about, a Mick Rock alternative mix.
Watching the new Life On Mars? video I noticed the song was running a little slow. It runs about 11 seconds longer when you take into account the silent ending, earlier fade etc. So the music in the video version runs around 3:50. When speed corrected to sync with the original it runs at around 3:39.
The official tracklisting has it lasting 3:37 so my assumption is that the audio from the video will be different to the (hopefully correct) audio on the cd.
Technically this would make it a different version in the IdbD in the same way that the slower Ryko Right is listed there.
Anyway, let's see what the Legacy cd throws up.
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Yes that's the one. I had just assumed it was a newly made video for the Ken Scott 2016 mix which I had assumed was the same speed as the standard version. But it's either a different speed to the Legacy album or the advertised run time for the album is incorrect.
I didn't grab the version played on the BBC. I listened once, was mortified, and never went back. That would of course provide the answer.
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the_hype
Posted: 5th Nov 2016, 10:59 am
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Shouldn't the comparison be made against the original video? Which comes in around the 4 min mark?
Shouldn't the comparison be made against the original video? Which comes in around the 4 min mark?
Oddly enough the official upload of the original video also runs horribly slow too, hence the longer run time. This is of course from a record company that lists it as "Taken from the album 'Heroes'" 45 million views and it's as flat a a tack. https://www.youtube.com/w ... --IqqusnNQ I don't have my copy of The Best Of Bowie dvd to hand to check that.
The smart fellow that uploaded the unbleached version has it running at the correct speed hence the shorter running time. https://www.youtube.com/w ... 1fcpCrRJ34
When Legacy is released next week i'll take a closer look.
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the_hype
Posted: 5th Nov 2016, 5:23 pm
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attfield wrote:
The smart fellow that uploaded the unbleached version has it running at the correct speed hence the shorter running time. https://www.youtube.com/w ... 1fcpCrRJ34
Thanks, that would be me (with permission too I might add)
So, having checked against the Legacy cd version, the following appears to be the case.
The legacy version does run a shade faster than the original. Not sure why Ken Scott felt the need to speed it up.
The video version runs about 10 seconds longer but seems to be at the same pitch so it's been stretched as opposed to running slow. The waveform image is the Legacy and Mick Rock 2016 video versions side by side.
I have no idea why that might be the case. As far as i'm aware, the PAL/NTSC conversion alters pitch. To change the length but retain pitch can only be a manual action I thought.
Anyway, if anyone here is musical (i'm certainly not) and can confirm that the pitch is the same, that would be good.
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shooky
Posted: 12th Nov 2016, 3:28 am
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the 2016 runs a full second faster than the original which is quite a significant difference. however the 2016 is only a fraction (0.1 second) faster than his 2003 mix, so that suggests he's using the same gear these days.
i don't know where you got your 2016 video from so i can't do any kind of comparison with that, but it's possible Rock had already prepared his video to the original length and had to stretch Scott's remix to fit the visuals rather than recut it or speed it up.